Posts by Open mind

xena said:i am sorry qadreena but i have never in the 20 some odd years i have been a jw ever heard of an unbaptised publisher being d/aed...marked as bad association yes..but d/a...no...but i guess stranger things can happen.... well that brought it all back.. actually xena the exact same thing happened to my brother in the early 80's.

he was only 14. he'd carried on associating with a friend of his who'd been disfellowshipped.

Open mind

One of the best JWN/JWD threads of all time, IMO.

Here's to happiness!

om

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2014 International Convention East Rutherford AUDIO

by wannabefree in

for those who are interested, i have intercepted an audio transmission of the ic in east rutherford, nj from russell's celestial teapot.

these are zipped files of mp3 audio of each day, they are broken down into individual talks for your convenience.. friday https://www.sendspace.com/file/dgyeer.

saturday https://www.sendspace.com/file/a6p6my.

Open mind

Nosy, guilt-mongering JW relatives (NGMJWR): "So OM, how was your RC?"

OM: "We didn't go. Had to work."

NGMJWR: "So are you going to attend a different weekend?"

OM: "Probably not. We'll just get the audio online somewhere."

Thanks wannabefree!!!

om

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favourite words...in any language

by new hope and happiness in

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friends

i mean " courting" certainley sounds more dignified than " hanging out with a new squeeze".

" comely" is a word i think should be used more often".

i am going to try and use " jabberwockey" in a sentece today.. anyway do you have any favourite words, in any language?.

Open mind

A French-speaking friend gave an example of how picturesque French is in comparison to English or German.

English: Potato

German: Kartoffel

French: Pomme de terre (Literally "apple of the earth".)

"Pomme de terre" is my vote for this thread.

om

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I was 36 when I started posting here. This weekend I celebrated my 50th birthday!

by nicolaou in

and i mean celebrated!

it was a cracking barbecue party for around 40 good friends and neighbours as well as my 'never jw' cousins and one of my brothers and his family.. .

drank a bit too much, embarrassed my kids with some 'dad dancing' and laughed until 2 in the morning.

Open mind

Happy Bday Nic!!

Glad you had a great time with family and friends and (I'm assuming) no beheadings.

om

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How long have you known TTATT and continued to participate?

by LostGeneration in

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friends

i continue to be stunned by posters reporting on the convention, lamenting the convention, complaining about going in serve-us and meetings, and yet continuing to participate in these activities.. a simple question.

how long have you done these things, fully knowing it is absolute bullshit?.

i couldn't handle it for more than six months before i basically outed myself.

Open mind

Learned TTATT approx 7 years ago. Kept my elder hat (but slid out of almost all elder duties, including JCs) for approx 2.5 years. Used that time to educate myself on JWN and JWFacts and do strategic seed planting with my JW wife and unbaptized teenagers.

For us, it was 2.5 years VERY well spent. YMMV.

om

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Anti-Semitism & Wealth of Jewish Individuals

by objectivetruth in

in a recent email conversation that i had with a jw friend, he brought up,the holocaust, as proof that jws were the true religion.

he said something to the effect of... "hitler targeted, jws because they serve jehovah.. hitler wanted them to renounce their faith as witnesses, if the witnesses didn't have the truth why would satan have hitler target them so brutally".

i responded "hitler put 6 million jews to death, and a few thousand witness's to death, what does this mean?".

Open mind

Pew Research points out a correlation between income and education for both Jews and Hindus.

The more religious Jews aren't as well off financially as the more secular Jews, but still do quite well compared to the US population in general.

Here's a link:

http://www.pewforum.org/2009/01/30/income-distribution-within-us-religious-groups/

If you download the PDF of the entire report, you'll see Jews broken out into two groups: conservative and reform.

It also depends on how you interpet the stats as to which group does better.

If you say that $75,000/year and above is doing well, then the Hindus win out. 65% of Hindus vs. 58% of Jews (conservative & reform combined) make over $75k/yr.

If you decide to focus on those who make over $100,000/yr, then Jews (once again including the higher-earning reform Jews) beat out the Hindus. 46% of Jews vs. 43% of Hindus make over $100k/yr.

The stats I enjoyed the most from Pew Research relate to JWs. JWs are almost at the bottom of the pile when it comes to education and income. But, they're #1 when it comes to adults who were raised in a religion and then left it.

om

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Anti-Semitism & Wealth of Jewish Individuals

by objectivetruth in

in a recent email conversation that i had with a jw friend, he brought up,the holocaust, as proof that jws were the true religion.

he said something to the effect of... "hitler targeted, jws because they serve jehovah.. hitler wanted them to renounce their faith as witnesses, if the witnesses didn't have the truth why would satan have hitler target them so brutally".

i responded "hitler put 6 million jews to death, and a few thousand witness's to death, what does this mean?".

Open mind

"Jews are the wealthiest National Group on Average in America,"

Source? Methodology?

From my reading of the latest survey by Pew Research, Jews run a close second to the Hindus.

Particularly if you're trying to attibute their wealth to their adherance to the Torah. Now you're talking conservative Jews and they definitely were behind the Hindus. Reform Jews, who don't take the Torah as seriously, substantially edged out the Hindus for people making more than $100,000/yr. But conservative Jews were neck and neck with Hindus on the $100,000/yr category. And the Hindus totally came out ahead on people making more than $75,000/yr.

I'm curious where you got your numbers.

om

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Disturbing Footnote in Tomorrow's Study Article...

by HeyThere in

article is basicqlly about families where a spouse is working away from home for an extended period, etc...a foot note says basically that some studies have shown that working away from home can cause serious consequences, such as infidelity, homosexuality, or incest.

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pull it up on jw.org...that is what it says.

Open mind

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un-freaking-believable